Category talk:Quests

Help! Trying to link to other category pages, but it's not working. Have the following: "Quests are tasks given out by quest \[\[Category:NPCs]] that can lead to one or more \[\[Category:missions]]." (Added \ because it's doing it even here) How do I link to a category instead of assigning to?--darB 16:11, February 6, 2006 (PST)

You probably have figured it out, but I'll answer here just for future reference for others. Prefix the category namespace with a colon, like [[:Category:NPCs]] and [[:Category:missions]]. Dedridd 14:04, March 3, 2006 (EST)

Finding what you need

This is a great table chocked full of information. However, being used to datagrids, I immediately wanted to sort by the starting zone column to see all the quests that were available to me in the area I'm in. Is there a way to do this? Are there categories for each zone, such that when I go to a zone page it'll list all the quests available in that area? Or is there another way to do this? It could be a valuable tool for players in figuring out where to go next. Dedridd 14:04, March 3, 2006 (EST)

Not yet. Add it here: EnterWiki 2.0/Proposed - thanks! Would be nice feature to have, but I'll forget unless you add it there (-: (post by Peerless - see his talk and contribs.) 14:58, March 3, 2006 (EST)

I'm assuming you mean the ability to sort a table by a column. I don't see how you are going to do this with user-entered tables, but I added it to the page. Dedridd

I have an easy time thinking up ways to do things - the hard part is getting xevo to implement them. lol (post by Peerless - see his talk and contribs.) 16:09, March 3, 2006 (EST)

Categories

1. Quest by patron. We need a standardized list and spelling for all patrons. Right now, only some specific phrases show up in the "Quests by patron" page, and the capitalization rules in that list aren't consistent. These patrons should also be consistent across the whole wiki. Once this list is standardized, the quests can be combed for inconsistencies, so we don't have things like quests for "The Silver Flame" not showing up in the list of quests for "Silver flame" or, in fact, anywhere on the Quests by patron page at all.

2. There should also be a "Free quests" and a "Premium quests" category. At least, those are the names I propose. I'd like a consensus on this if I could get one, and on their names, before I actually do this. Corebreach 19:47, January 19, 2010 (EST)

i totally agree. the quest by patron is a pain to look at. let patron follow the naming convention in Adventure Compendium ingame.
i agree with #2 also, maybe we can update the missioninfo template to contain it. i usually use my adpack template to mark a quest as requiring a particular adpack but it currently doesnt put quests in a categories. I like "Premium quests" better than "Pay2Play", which is misleading. -Sef326 22:30, January 19, 2010 (EST)

The Coins Lords, The Free Agents, The Silver Flame, The Twelve, The Yugoloth should be the standard imo. -Sef326 19:55, January 21, 2010 (EST)

Any opposed? Corebreach 19:26, January 28, 2010 (EST)

Nope. I agree too. --Borror0 20:15, January 28, 2010 (EST)

well, check this out... its not just about patrons, but quest giver locations have some inconsistency too. you guys wanna fix that too? i.e. Harbor quests/The Harbor quests, Marketplace quests/the Marketplace quests etc. -yoko5000 23:03, January 21, 2010 (EST)

Yes. It's actually going to be harder, though, since we need to determine whether to list them by the zone they're actually started in or the zone they're listed in in the in-game compendium. Preferences? Corebreach 01:25, January 25, 2010 (EST)

I think the biggest concern is to find which of the two will lead to categories that represent the way players categories them. Anyone has examples of quests given in one location but then entered in another? --Borror0 21:38, January 25, 2010 (EST)

um, STK. "quest" is given out in the Marketplace but "adventure instances" are located in The Steam Tunnels. pretty much anything related to wilderness area/outdoor area is like that. Category:Quests by location and quest template clearly states these locations are by quest giver NPCs though. i think i had an agreement with somebody about this but it was quite a while ago, the game has been changed a lot since then (FtP and adventure packs, they jacked up quest journal once again too) so, i dont mind re-thinking. --yoko5000 22:42, January 25, 2010 (EST)

A_Relic_of_a_Sovereign_Past is a complex one: offered in the house D temple, but you need to go inside an outdoor area in house K.--Cyanpill 01:11, January 26, 2010 (EST)

Yes, wilderness areas are all screwed up. Consider:

• All Korthos quests are categorized in-game under "Korthos Island", though there's one quest given outside the city. Worse, that's technically the name of the wilderness zone only. "Korthos Village" is the city zone.
• All Cerulean Hills and Waterworks quests are categorized under "Harbor" (not "The Harbor").
• There's a "Searing Heights" category separate from "Marketplace", though there's nothing in it but slayer/explorer/rares -- nothing you need to talk to an NPC to get.

And then there's the fact that those are only the big, sortable categories. Each quest description has an "In:" field that says exactly where it's started, and it's (of course) usually different. Corebreach 02:21, January 26, 2010 (EST)

My head hurts. I think we'll all agree to discard the in-game Compendium: no point in recreating Turbine's inconsistencies like the Korthos Village one or the the "Harbor" category. How about we just go and categories them based on the location of the quest giver? As far as I can see, that's the best. Pretty much sees BAM as a House D quest even though it's in house K, for example. The only problem is that it separates quest acquired at the entrance from those acquired in the city instance in Gianthold when people generally view those as one category but I think it's a minor penalty to pay. As for the slayer/rare encounter/explorer, those can just be left on the wilderness area's own page. No need to list it, again, separately - IMO.

Thoughts? --Borror0 06:14, January 26, 2010 (EST)

I'd also use where the starter NPC is rather than where the entry door is. Could we rename that field so it's self-evident it's the "started in" zone? Corebreach 18:56, January 28, 2010 (EST)

Isn't "Quest acquired in:" clear enough? --Borror0 20:15, January 28, 2010 (EST)