Talk:Sentient Weapon

Dagger note?

Next to every(!) weapon listed in the collapsible table under "Eligible Weapons" (plus the one Lvl 18 oddball), there is an editor's dagger, †, but nowhere on the page is any footnote explaining what this is in reference to. Can anyone add the appropriate footnote? Or (better?), since every weapon has one, do we just remove them all and remove any confusion? ⇒ C-Hound (Contribs • Message • Email) 17:44, September 13, 2018 (EDT)

• If you hover over the dagger, these should be a popup. --⇒ Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email) 04:02, September 14, 2018 (EDT)

Okay, that answers that half of the question - but if 100% of the items are "(probably) not working as intended", wouldn't it be better to just add a note to that effect? And it then raises the question - why/how are they not? ⇒ C-Hound (Contribs • Message • Email) 19:37, September 14, 2018 (EDT)

• I don't like the list and the note is wrong. But I didn't put it in. Maybe the author should fix it. --⇒ Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email) 05:39, September 15, 2018 (EDT)

All these red crosses?

I don't understand why *every* item in the list has such a red cross ? And what I understand even less is that the cosmetic item doesn't have such a cross ? I have found that these small red crosses kind of contain footnotes . ALL items in this list are implicitely marked as "shouldn't accept Sentience" this way !?!? ⇒ Alrik (Contribs • Message • Email) 15:54, May 11, 2020 (EDT)

• See prev discussion on this topic, above. Iirc, it started out as "most", and then, one at a time, progressed to "all". If, now, 100% have the same notation, then, at the risk of repeating my above comments, and if there's no code that depends on that, we can probably lose them all and replace them with a single note at the top to the same effect.⇒ C-Hound (Contribs • Message • Email) 12:50, May 12, 2020 (EDT)
• I do not understand what the issue is here... The only big group of red error daggers I see is in the "Sentient Weapon/Non-food" transcluded section. As that page says... If items are missing, add {{Non-food}} and if they're there and shouldn't be, remove that template or add |food=true to the Named item template to remove it. ⇒ DDOstream (Contribs • Message • Email) 10:24, May 13, 2020 (EDT)

Sworn Weapons still partially missing

The Epic Sworn weapons from the Keep On The Borderlands are still partially missing, Epic Ethereal also. ⇒ Alrik (Contribs • Message • Email) 09:40, March 20, 2021 (EDT)

Cosmetic Borderlands Sword does not accept Sentience anymore

I tested this on March, 21st, 2021, and the cosmetic sword of the "Kepp on the Borderlands" cosmetic bundle does not accept a sentience gem - at least there is an error message saying so, when I hold the mouse over the slot. ⇒ Alrik (Contribs • Message • Email) 14:50, March 21, 2021 (EDT)

ERROR Message when trying to display the available weapons !

Hello,

I just encountered an ERROR message when I tried to use the link "SEntient Weapons/Base Items".

Why don't we just have a list like with the sentience food in this page ? ⇒ Alrik (Contribs • Message • Email) 06:11, October 15, 2022 (EDT)

• As you noticed, the list Sentient Weapon/Base item is showing an error. Therefore, we cannot have it on the Sentient Weapon page. As for the reason of the error, there are simply too many sentient weapons in the game and the wiki software cannot cope. The list would have to be redesigned somehow. Personally, I don't care about a list of sentient weapons because basically all ML20+ weapons are sentient so... ⇒ Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email) 14:13, October 15, 2022 (EDT)

• Thanks for sharing that this page was broken, Alrik. The problem was related to the dpl extension configured to use a collection of notcategoryregexp and notcategory to filter/generate content. I've refactored to use the much simpler method (membership in Sentience accepting weapons) to identify pages that should be processed. To the point that Cru121 made, is it really that valuable to have flat list of all (at this point 800+) sentient weapons? Is there a more helpful way the data could be grouped, or filtered that would make it more useful? ⇒ Joenuts (Contribs • Message • Email) 00:55, October 17, 2022 (EDT)

• At present, to be honest, this list is pretty redundant. Back when the system was introduced it was useful to have a list of eligible items, but that was five years ago and there are far too many items here to reliably list anymore. We're better off just listing the rules and the exceptions than spitting out a massive list of every item that works as we expect it to. ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 08:09, October 17, 2022 (EDT)

N.B.

"N.B. Adding a spark to a weapon won't immediately unlock the new slot - the sentient XP still need to be obtained."

"N.B."? — previous unsignedPlease sign posts using ~~~~ comment by Caseyh ^{( c | e | d | r | b )} at 00:19, February 12, 2024 (UTC)

• Yep, that didn't really make sense as written. I've reformatted that area to explain Sparks a bit better.

(Quick side note while I'm at it - please remember to sign your posts on talk pages, as it helps us work out who said what and when. You can sign a post by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) after your post, and the code will fill in your username and the date for you.) ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 21:04, February 11, 2024 (EST)